Dante Purgatorio & Paradiso

References

Background

Epic narrative poem, written over 13 year span. These last two were at least as detailed as Inferno. Shows just how much time people devoted to this before TV and film. Dante studied poetry, music, art, classics. At age 18, joined group of Italian poets starting a style called Dolce Stil Novo (sweet new style).

History: war between Guelfs and Ghibellines. Guelfs, majority, were supporters of the holy roman emperor. Gibileans were supporters of the pope (Dante was a Ghibellines).

Written in vernacular Italian. Invented the terza rima (tight form). ABA BCB CDC…

His guides are primarily Virgil and Beatrice. Beatrice has been summoned by St. Lucy (meaning light) to aid him. St. Lucy was summoned by Mary, the mother of Jesus.

How to read it? One way is as a metaphor. One of the places you go to when you die. Dante gets to travel through all three, seeing the 3 stages of salvation: darkness (recognizing sin), contrition (paying for sin, penance), salvation (glimpsing God, the completion).

Angel at the gate is standing on 3 steps: marble (polished like a mirror, seeing how you really are), stone (rough, penance), and blood red (arriving, the blood of salvation).

Psalm 114 became the basis of a the 4-part method of Biblical interpretation.

  1. Literal: Israelites coming out of Egypt
  2. Allegorical (personal, what you believe): coming from sin to faith
  3. Moral (acting): no longer acting as a slave, acting as a redeemed under grace
  4. Anagogical (your future): looking at the future departure of your soul to eternal glory.

In a letter, Dante offered this as a way of interpreting the poem.

    1. Literal: what happens to men when they die

A. For Dante himself (autobiographical)
B. For Florence and the other Italians

  1. Allegorical/Moral/Anagogical: men earn the rewards or punishments of justice.

Purgatorio

4 stars at the beginning of the Purgatorio: “These ‘other virtues’ are the four cardinal virtues, also known as the moral or classical virtues: fortitude, temperance, justice, and prudence.” These virtues are shared with the pagans. Later in Paradise he deals with the 3 Christian virtues: faith, hope, and love.

Meets some interesting characters along the way.

V.106: Story of a guy who gets saved at the last minute, a deathbed conversion. “For just one tear you carry off his deathless part; but I shall treat this other part in other wise.”

Negligent rulers: beautiful valley, they always pray for others’ prayers for them. They try to walk up. They can’t pray for themselves to get out of purgatory but they can pray for others to pray for them.

Two angels guard them at night. A serpent comes at night but doesn’t get close, licks his own back. The angels are white, swords are red, wings are green. 3 colors represent faith (white), hope (green), and charity (red).

8.1-6 “It was the hour that turns seafarers’ longings
homeward—the hour that makes their hearts grow tender
upon the day they bid sweet friends farewell;
the hour that pierces the new traveler
with love when he has heard, far off, the bell
that seems to mourn the dying of the day;”

Whips & Bridles. Whips guide them through examples of the good opposite. The bridle is the deterrent that keeps them from the bad thing. Mary is the example of every good thing. Uses David and Jesus, even Romans who are used as models.

In the terrace of the wrathful, he puts some political commentary in about the roles of the emperor and pope with respect to power.

Sloth: addresses free will. Sees sloth as insufficient love, in the middle of the 7 sins. Zeal is personified by Mary who wants wine. And Julius Ceasar. Examples of sloth are Moses’s followers in the desert, and the Trojans.

Going up is loving things too much. Going down is loving people too little.

Why does he end both of these books with “stars”? We think we are looking out at the stars but the medieval man thought he was looking in to the stars. They are used for navigation. Light from the sky symbolizing God, stars being other worldly. You never arrive at a star.

Dante puts lust close to terrestrial paradise, Eden.

Who is Beatrice to him? Vision of divine love, guide through Paradise.

3.40-43: You saw the fruitless longing of those men who would—if reason could—have been content, those who desire eternally laments; I speak of Aristotle and of Plato—and many others” Perhaps further evidence for Ken’s thesis about the classics being useful in reason but not sufficient for salvation.

8.19: He pleads with the reader to pay attention, to look sharp at truth.

9.61–63: another address to the reader.

6.76: Italy as an inn of sorrows. No queen of provinces but of bordellos.

22.73: Speaks to Statius about sketching what he sees.

Paradiso

3.64 Do you desire to be higher up in paradise? No, we long only for what we have. We dwell within the divine will, where his will is our will.

4.16 Beatrice sees that Dante is struggling with free will and human responsibility.

4.34 they feel God’s love according to their capacity.

The Ending

Significant discussion about how satisfying the payoff is here. Is it intimate? How does he represent the beautific vision? Just a light enveloping him?

How would this be different if he included more from a “relationship with Jesus” point of view? Could Jesus have been a guide for him?

Augustine: Confessions

Historical Context
A.D. 70 Fall of Jerusalem, temple destroyed
Early church is persecuted until Constantine makes Christianity the official religion in 312
Constantine 306-337
Augustine 354-397, baptized 387, becomes bishop in 396, wrote Confessions in 397, Confessions covers 354-387

Autobiography, journal, or memoir?
Reads like a journal because he shows so much of his inner life
Nothing self-indulgent about it
Time passing after the events (and before writing) gives him a lot of perspective

Name of the book has a double meaning
Confesses sin but also who he now knows Christ to be
Confession – testimony, a statement of faith
Confessor – a martyr who holds to his faith in Christ
Other spiritual biographies – John Bunyan (Grace Abounding), Tolstoy, C.S. Lewis (Surprised by Joy)

Testimony: You are great, Lord. (Framework is Augustine talking to the Lord but we get to listen in)
What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?
Philosophy was a search for wisdom, including goodness, truth, beauty
Both sought wisdom, Athens through intellectual and philosophical inquiry, Jerusalem through God’s way as God’s chosen

How would you connect Augustine to Athens?
Carthage was his Athens
Followed the path of Athenian intellectual inquiry
Read Cicero, which lit in him a passion for wisdom but came with a warning not to be seduced by empty philosophy that glosses over sin
Manmade pursuit of wisdom that whets the appetite for something higher
Does very well in rhetoric and becomes very conceited

From Plato- he gets some glimpse of the logos from reading Plato, search for the incorporeal
Pursuit of peace
See the destiny but cannot see how to reach it
The worship of knowledge gets in the way of the search for Christ – can’t stomach His humility because they are puffed up with their knowledge

Monica – how does she change?
She didn’t want Augustine to be baptized early because she thought he might fall away and then his baptism would be a curse

How would you connect Augustine to Jerusalem (God’s path to wisdom)?
Christ
Sin – the barrier between us getting to know God
Searches for truth but Athens path never leads him to God
Barrier

2 friends
Nebridius? – friend is ill and is baptized but Augustine mocks the baptism, friend does not join in the joking, then dies, Augustine feels convicted
Alypius – goes to the gladiatorial games against his better judgment, sees it and it wounds his soul but he becomes addicted and can’t stop going, sin is captivating and addictive, shows Augustine that sex is his addiction, sheer willpower is not enough

Personal humility – end of book 7, Section 13 or 9
4 contrasts between Platonists and the Bible
Platonists say In the beginning was the word (higher reality) but they don’t say that Christ is the way
2. The Word (John 1) is of spirit, no connection between spirit and flesh (Platonists) – Jesus Christ is the ultimate connection between spirit and flesh, the Son of God (Manicheans would say there’s no connection bt spirit and flesh)
3. The atonement – by connecting with God you will gain wisdom (platonists) but they don’t say Rom. 5 that Christ died for the ungodly
Plato – light but no love, glory but no sacrifice, wisdom but no humility, spirit but no incarnation
Plato moves Augustine toward God but doesn’t have the final answer
Plato helps prepare the world for God but human wisdom falls short
Athens – focus is on the creation
Jerusalem – focus is on the creator (would require them to bow to the creator)

What pushes Augustine to conversion?
Visits Ambrose and Victorinus
In the garden with Alypius – read Romans – put on Christ, which covers the weight of his sin that caused him such agony

“Author of salvation” – this was God’s story

What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?
Ken’s Thesis: Athens functions as a bridge from self, created things, to Christ.
The journey of wisdom gets you farther than the journey without it – lots of questions, a hunger for something more, a search for answers, learning to look for what answers, builds the appetite
Athens is another Moses, another Pentateuch, another way of preparation for Christ
God’s law is written in every man’s heart
A detailed picture of a classical, Platonic path to Christ

Faith – personal, communal (friends in the garden), transformational

Papers
Use the classical method:
Grammar – recount the facts
Logic/dialectic – make contrasts
Rhetoric – expressing your opinions, build a case (This is what I think, and here’s why I think it), be provocative (don’t just pick the obvious points)

Tentative Capstone date – Sunday, July 28
Location – National Cathedral?

Tacitus: Annals

What is the reason for writing history? The role of the Historian
This harkened us back to Herodotus see the beginning of the book.  Seeks out digressions – willing to follow rabbit trails. – Ken
Tacitus gives us at least three statements about his goals for writing the Annals:
(I, 1) “without rancor or bias” – specifically bias based in fear
(III, 65) “It seems to me a historian’s foremost duty to ensure that merit is recorded, and to confront evil words and deeds with the fear of posterity’s denunciations.”
(IV, 33)
“Similarly, now that Rome has virtually been transformed into an autocracy, the investigation and record of these details concerning the autocrat may prove useful. Indeed, it is from such studies – from the experience of others – that most men learn to distinguish right and wrong, advantage and disadvantage. Few can tell them apart instinctively.”
Illuminate the people and recognize ambitions in its various shapes to counter judge the actions of men so that the good and evil may be judged and preserved for posterity – see Sue for the actual quote.   A historian can teach moral lessons instead of just facts and dates (as several of our chums experienced).  A subjective view is required to teach morals, whereas objective history of needs only facts and figures (but can still bias the reader).

Quote from http://faculty.isi.org/blog/post/view/id/180/  Towards the end of his second term as President, Thomas Jefferson received a letter from his granddaughter, Anne Cary Bankhead, who mentioned that she had been reading from the works of the Roman historian Tacitus (c. AD 55-117). In his reply, Jefferson wrote: “Tacitus I consider the first writer in the world without a single exception. His book is a compound of history and morality of which we have no other example” (1808).

Sue’s compilation of biographical notes from various sources is below.

GAIUS CORNELIUS TACITUS

EARLY LIFE
• born ca. AD 55-57, possibly in northern Italy or southern Gaul. Some even suggest he was born in Spain.
• born into a wealthy, upper-class family of the equestrian class. His father was most likely the Cornelius Tacitus who was procurator (chief financial agent) of Belgica and Germania.
• studied rhetoric under Quintilian, this being the classic course of study for an aspiring politician. A fellow student was his life-long friend, Pliny the Younger.
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Equestrian class (equites): Also called knights. The basis for this class was economic (in contrast to senatorial class, which was political). A man could be formally enrolled in the equestrian order if he could prove that he possessed a stable minimum amount of wealth (property worth at least 400,000 sesterces); by extension his family members were also considered equestrians. However, if an equestrian was elected to a magistracy and entered the Senate, he moved up to the senatorial class; this was not particularly easy or frequent. Equestrians were primarily involved in the types of business prohibited to senators.
Belonging to one of these upper classes had many significant consequences for Romans besides prestige, for social class determined one’s economic and political opportunities, as well as legal rights, benefits and penalties. Rome had nothing comparable to our middle class; the gulf between the two upper classes and the much larger lower classes was immense. However, as long as one was a freeborn Roman citizen there was at least a slight possibility of moving into the equestrian class through the acquisition of wealth. Entry into the senatorial class, even for wealthy equestrians, was extremely difficult, since for centuries a small number of elite families had monopolized this class.
During the Empire, most of the social classes continued. There was a new and tiny class at the very top of the social pyramid, comprising the emperors and their families. From the time of Augustus, the state was identified with the imperial household (domus), and the women belonging to that household naturally became associated with imperial status, imperial titles such as Augusta and mater castrorum (“mother of the military camps”), and even some forms of power, although these women (like all Roman women) were formally excluded from political offices and the emperors consistently stressed their domestic roles.
The nature of the senatorial class also changed during the Empire. Although the Senate and magistrates continued to exist, they no longer had any real political power, and their membership in this class depended ultimately on the favor of the emperor.
Nevertheless rank retained its importance and became even more clearly marked and formalized. In the third century CE, the law explicitly divided Romans into two groups, the honestiores (“more honorable people,” including senators, equestrians, municipal officials, and soldiers) and the humiliores (“more insignificant people,” including all other groups).
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• in AD 77 married the only daughter of Gnaeus Julias Agricola, an eminent Roman general involved in the conquest of Britain and about whom Tacitus later wrote a biography/elegy.

CAREER

• Context: A student during the last years of the reign of Nero. Rome was still suffering from the big fire of 64. In 69, the civil war known as the Year of the Four Emperors broke out, culminating in the accession of Vespasian, the first of the Flavian emperors. These events may have contributed early on to Tacitus’ gloomy worldview. He knew what it meant when a government collapses.

• Most of the older aristocratic families failed to survive the proscriptions that took place at the end of the Republic, and in his Histories Tacitus makes it clear that he owes his official career to the Flavians (Vespasian, Titus, Domitian).

• was appointed quaestor (supervised financial affairs) in 81 or 82 and then was admitted to the Senate. This body had lost much of the power it held under the Republic, but Tacitus and a few others held to old traditions about what it meant to be Roman: the empire should expand, barbarians should be conquered, civilization should be propagated. These ideas were becoming unpopular, however. Military conquests were becoming too costly in taxes, human lives, governance, mutinies.

• under Domitian, Tacitus served as praetor, and between 89 and 93 he must have commanded a legion or governed a province. The Senate and emperor were on bad terms at that point—it was a good time to be away from Rome. Tacitus (and his property) survived Domitian’s reign of terror (81–96), but the experience left him jaded and perhaps ashamed at his own complicity, giving him the hatred of tyranny that is so evident in his works. Still, Tacitus continued to benefit from imperial patronage. He was appointed consul in 97 by Nerva, the old senator who had been made emperor after Domitian was assassinated.

• during this time, reached the height of his fame as an orator when he delivered the funeral oration for the famous veteran soldier Lucius Verginius Rufus (remarkable for refusing power after his military successes and retreating to an estate to become a man of letters).
• the following year, wrote and published the Agricola and Germania.
• afterward, absented himself from public life, but returned during Trajan’s reign (Nerva’s successor).

• In 100, prosecuted, along with his long-time friend Pliny the Younger,  Marius Priscus (proconsul of Africa) for corruption. Priscus was found guilty and sent into exile; Pliny wrote a few days later that Tacitus had spoken “with all the majesty which characterizes his usual style of oratory.” Both men received a special vote of thanks from the senate for their conduct of the case.

• lengthy absence from politics and law followed while he wrote the Histories and the Annals.

• in 112 or 113, was appointed by Trajan to the highest civilian governorship, that of the Roman province of Asia in Western Anatolia

• died as early as 116, but maybe as late as 125 or even 130. Unknown whether he had any children. The Augustan History reports that the emperor Marcus Claudius Tacitus claimed him for an ancestor and provided for the preservation of his works, but like much of the Augustan History, this story may be fraudulent.

HISTORIAN/WRITER

• considered the most important historian of the Roman Empire

• respected for his analysis of a wide range of sources, including the work of other historians, biographies, interviews, pamphlets, speeches, minutes of the Senate and inscriptions. Most of these sources have not survived.

• known for the brevity and compactness of his prose, as well as for his penetrating psychological insights

• blends straightforward descriptions of events, moral lessons, and tightly focused dramatic accounts

• influence of rhetoric allowed him to argue on more than one side of an issue

Prose
• His Latin style has a grandeur and eloquence (thanks to his education in rhetoric) yet is extremely concise.
• Sentences are rarely flowing or beautiful, but their point is always clear. Example: Annals I, 63—contemporaries wrote about military engagements with lots of embellishment. Not Tacitus.
• Ronald Mellor describes Tacitus’ style as having “a tone of the utmost gravity with intimations of melancholy and violence lurking just under the surface. It carries a moral and political authority that impresses, even intimidates the reader.” His “remarkable combination of nobility and intimacy, of gravity and violence is enormously effective at conveying the underlying sense of fear that pervades the Histories and the Annals.”
• He mostly keeps to a chronological narrative order, but where he does use broad strokes, for example, in the opening paragraphs of the Annals, he uses a few condensed phrases which take the reader to the heart of the story. In the opening paragraph he sweeps the reader through almost 500 years of history.

Psychological portraits
• focuses on the inner motivations of the characters, often with penetrating insight
• Moses Hadas says, “Always Tacitus strives to penetrate into the thoughts and motives of the actors in his drama. It is Tacitus’ skill in delineating characters, particularly intense and theatrical Roman characters, that is apt to strike the reader as his outstanding achievement.”
• hard to say how much of his insight is correct, and how much is convincing only because of his rhetorical skill
• keen to expose hypocrisy and dissimulation; for example, 1.72 and 4.64–66

“No bias?”
• political career was largely spent under the emperor Domitian. His experience of the tyranny, corruption, and decadence of that era (81–96) may explain the moral indignation, bitterness, and irony of his political analysis. He draws attention to the dangers of power without accountability, love of power untempered by principle, and the apathy and corruption engendered by the wealth generated by the empire.
• hated imperial power and tries to paint every emperor as a corrupt despot, but hated civil war and anarchy even more

• nostalgic for the virtues of republican Rome.
• For Tacitus, dictatorship and moral decline went hand in hand. Oppressive rule caused moral degeneracy, and moral degeneracy allowed oppressive rule.
• felt Senators had squandered their cultural inheritance—that of free speech—to placate their (rarely benign) emperor
• does not fear to praise and to critique the same person, often noting what he takes to be their more-admirable and less-admirable properties. One of Tacitus’s hallmarks is refraining from conclusively taking sides for or against persons he describes, which has led some to interpret his works as both supporting and rejecting the imperial system.

LEGACY
• was not much read in late antiquity, and even less in the Middle Ages
• His antipathy toward the Jews and Christians of his time — he records with unemotional contempt the sufferings of the Christians at Rome during Nero’s persecution — made him unpopular in the Middle Ages.
• Italian poet Giovanni Boccaccio rediscovered him in 14th century and by 16th century, when his works were translated into English, Tacitus commanded the attention of countless political writers.
• has come to be considered the greatest Roman historian, but it is as a political theorist that he has been and remains most influential outside the field of history.

Writing Style
The way Tacitus wrote – observation on his writing style:
Much more than annals
Closer to investigative journalism than expected.
Offering more than one opinion or perspective from the audience
Like a soap opera; Germanicus the hero; mellow dramatic; dramatic irony – build suspense for a certain outcome when history already revealed that the hero does not win in the end
Story telling – depicting tension between personalities

Nero
Pat mentioned that Nero’s family was quite warped, and this generated a small amount of sympathy for Nero.  Cindy noted that Nero loved to be on stage, but actors were considered very low in the social structure.   Pat noted that Nero went to the Greek Olympics to do his act.  Sue felt better about American politics after reading about Rome’s governance during and after Nero’s reign.

Why is this a Great Book.
It has survived so long and does not have much competition.  It has captured history of a particularly colorful time period.  Valuable writing because it is close to the period; interesting/compelling way of writing; and culture relevant and of interest to modern day readers.    The life of the first emperor, Augustus, coincides with the earthly life of Jesus.

Ovid’s Metamorphoses

Background

Ovid was a contemporary of Christ, Augustus reigning during Jesus’ life. Augustus known for bringing in a period of stability, Pax Romana. Ovid was banished (exiled) around the time Metamorphoses was published. Conjecture is that Ovid was banished for this work in an effort to clean up living. They were trying to define marriage at this time from a legal standpoint. He passed a monogamy law during his reign. Ovid was not a big fan of monogamy. Ovid was also friends of Augustus’ enemies. Ovid would publish other works on love, even from exile in modern day Romania. Many of the nobles were from equestrian families.

Organization or Stucture

Not about one hero and one story, instead is like a theme and variations, where a theme is presented in the first part, and then varied in many different ways in subsequent parts. Ken played Variations on a Theme by Hadyn by Johannes Brahms. A mock epic. In dactylic hexameter, six dactyls in a line. Some translations attempt to keep this meter even in rhyming couplets, but the prose versions are much easier to read and understand.

There were other compilations of mythology, (see the notes below).

Connection: Jesus is coming to offer his own metamorphoses, we shall all be changed.

Discussion:

Creation: a nameless god seems to “organize” chaos, not really create it from nothing (ex nihilo) as in Genesis.

Poles: north and south poles, equator, etc. The 4 winds.

Description of man: man created to look to the sky, unlike the animals. Contrast this man looking for God instead of man created in God’s image. A mixture of biblical truth and man’s imagination thinking up what happened when no man was present. Humans created to rule over everything else.

Man and animals are different. Again a hierarchy: gods, men, animals. What does that tell us about the stories he’s going to tell? He will tell stories based on the theme of change. Usually the gods will initiate this change. When natural order is disrupted, this may be a cause for gods to right this by acting and causing metamorphosis. There is nothing just about it necessarily.

4 ages: Gold, (the god Saturn’s fall ushers in) Silver where life is work, then Bronze, finally Iron age, where fighting breaks out in full force.

Jupiter’s anger is unleashed because the gods are not worshiped anymore, and decides to destroy the world with a flood.

Our first metamorphoses

Daphne and Apollo: Daphne was beautiful and Apollo chases here down. Her father turns her into a laurel tree, which would become the wreath of the victor.

Given how fickle the unjust the gods are, what must worship of them be like? Appeasement? Do we attribute to God things that are not true of Him? Did he allow some bad thing for the cause of good?

Jupiter and Io:  (The funny one with a happy ending) Io was the daughter of the river god.  Jupiter wanted her and comes to her in a fog, seized her and dishonored her.  Juno sees the mist and comes.  Jove turns Io into a cow because she knows he is coming.  But, Juno asks for the cow because she knows what’s going on.  The cow is put under watch by Argus.  Then, Mercury lulls Argus to sleep and Io is able to get away.  She returns to her family and eventually transforms back to herself.  Io has a son Epaphus who is friends with Phaethon who is Apollos son.

Phaethon – Father promises his son anything.  Phaethon asks to drive his father’s winged chariot.  Apollos tries to talk him out of it, but cannot and feels he must honor his promise.  It causes the destruction of many.  Pride and hubris taint the requests and the promises.  Could this be an explanation of a shooting star?

Book II:

Jupiter and Callisto – Many of the gods go after the girls that desire to follow Diana and be virgins.  Callisto becomes pregnant by Jupiter.  When Dianna discovers her pregnancy, they blame her and Diana banishes her and Juno turns Callisto into a bear.  Her son, Arcas, was going to kill her because he didn’t recognize her, but Jove intervenes and turns them both into constellations.

The House of Envy – Mercury see a beautiful girl, Herse, and enters her house.  Mercury asks Herse’s sister, Aglauros, to enter Herse’s room.  Aglauros requests gold and Minerva overhears.  She tells Envy to poison Aglauros’ heart.  Envy is described as never being happy until it sees another’s misery.  Aglauros is turned to stone.  Themes:  Better watch what you say, it may happen. (Aglauros refusing to move is turned to stone.)

Transitions keep the story line going.  Such as…Mercury goes back to heavens and calms down.  Then, Jupiter sends Mercury on an errand. and Jove pursues Europa.

Book III – Narcissus and Echo – This is where we get the word narcissistic.  We see the theme of unrequited love.  Two transformations.  Narcissus looses his body and a flower grows where he was.  Beautiful love poetry.  Echo wasted away into an echo.

Bacchus – The gods compensating humans for their loss, or consoling them.

Book IV – Perseus and Andromeda – Perseus is clever and has to fight of suitors, like Odysseus.  Perseus is in love with Andromeda and wants to rescue her.  He has to defeat the sea serpent.  Clash of the Titans is loosely based on this.

Book VI:

Arachne- Another theme is art as seen is the story of Arachne.  Art is almost more revered than the gods.  Artistically beautiful things live on.  Tapestry, stories, weaving,

Summary – More poking fun of the gods.  Gods are on the decline, only revisited to seem silly.  Augustus’s reaction was to banish him.  Rome was still enamored with their gods as a nation.  The setting is the first Roman Emperor at peace which puts more confidence in the power of man.  When man feels in control, you laugh at the idea of fate.  This is a culmination of the religious beliefs of the past.

Interesting weaving of the many stories.

Big Themes

  • metamorphosis (change, often from man to animal)
  • love (lust, eros, unrequited love often because of gods’ actions)
  • hubris (pride that prevents clear thinking or right action)
  • fate (often fated to unrequited love)
  • loyalty
  • hospitality

Notes:

Biography:

Publius Ovidius Naso (43 BC – 18 AD). Ovid seems to have believed in art for pleasure’s sake, having no ethical agenda for his writings, unlike his predecessor Virgil, who wrote for the betterment of Romans. Ovid’s other works include: Medea (a tragedy), Heroides (letters to legendary heroes from their wives;), Amores (poetic essays on love), The Art of Love (advice on how to seduce a woman; scandalous in Augustus’ time, one possible reason for Ovid’s banishment in 8 AD), the Fasti (a poetic calendar of religious festivals). Ovid offered something of an apology for his immoral reputation:

“My life is respectable, my Muse is full of jesting. A book is not evidence of one’s soul.” Tristia 2:354

Organization:

In the first verses of the Metamorphoses, Ovid claims to write one continuous epic, not an anthology of myths. Unlike the Iliad, however, there is no central hero, thus no simple Aristotelian unity to the work. So what binds this poem together, making it more than a random collection of stories? We might first consider three superficial strategies of unity within the poem:

1. All of Ovid’s tales involve metamorphosis. But some stories (see Phaethon, Pentheus, Heracles) only have metamorphosis tacked on as an incidental element, almost as an afterthought. Ovid is more interested in metamorphosis as a universal principle which explains the nature of the world: Troy falls, Rome rises. Nothing is permanent.

2. Chronological progression: Ovid begins his poem with the story of creation and the flood, and ends in his own day with Augustus on the throne. However, chronology becomes unimportant in the vast middle section of work, as seen by the numerous anachronisms throughout (see notes on Callisto, Atlas, Cycnus stories for examples).

3. Transitional links: Ovid continually surprises us, as we never know where he’s going next. He changes strategies using several techniques:

  • He follows the same character through different adventures (Perseus, Hercules).
  • He tells a story within a story: to put Argus to sleep, Mercury tells another story, becoming an internal narrator within Ovid’s story.
  • He “slides” from the story of one character to that of a relative or friend (Epaphus and Phaethon, end of book 1).
  • He even will note the absence of a character in one tale as an introduction to a new story (Tereus, book 6).

These different types of links provide only a superficial continuity to the poem. A better way of viewing the artistic unity of the Metamorphoses considers Ovid’s use of “theme with variations.” For example, in Books 1-2, there are at least five variations of the virgin-pursued-by-god theme:

  • Daphne and Apollo: with focus on the chase, her metamorphosis into a tree serves as Daphne’s means of escape.
  • Jupiter and Io: with emphasis on Hera, the jealous wife, and the metamorphosis as Io’s disguise in hiding from Hera (both these early instances make the gods appear comic).
  • Syrinx and Pan: a meta-narrative or story within a story, told by Mercury, serving to put Argus to sleep.
  • Jupiter and Callisto: similar to the Juno/Io plot but not treated comically; this more serious tale prepares for the later savage treatment of Semele and Ino by the gods; here metamorphosis serves as apotheosis (Callisto taken up to heaven as a constellation).
  • Jupiter and Europa: serves primarily as a transition to the story in Book 3 of Cadmus’ exile.

This pattern of theme and variations gives Ovid numerous means to tell his stories in inventive ways, weaving a complex web of interrelationships throughout the entire work. This thesis, suggested by Brooks Otis (Ovid as an Epic Poet, 1970), will organize (with some modification) the following discussion notes.

Otis sees four major divisions (after a prologue depicting the Creation and primordial events) to the Metamorphoses:

  • “Divine Comedy” or Gods in Love: Books 1-2
  • “Avenging Gods”: Books 3-6, line 400 (up to the story of Tereus and Procne)
  • “Pathos of Love”: the rest of Book 6-11
  • “History of Rome & the Deified Caesar”: Books 12-15

Following this outline, we see a general movement from gods acting like humans (section I), to humans suffering at the hands of gods (II), to humans suffering at the hands of humans (III), to humans becoming gods (IV).

Each section prepares the reader for future sections: the tales of the Minyads (section II, book 4) foreshadow the thwarted or forbidden loves in section III; Hercules’ becoming a god (section III, book 9) points toward those later of Aeneas, Romulus, Caesar (section IV). Thus, throughout the work Ovid creates a complex chain of interconnecting themes.

Classical Sources:

Throughout the notes are links to other ancient works of mythology, most of which were available to Ovid. Homer’s famous epics, the Iliad and the Odyssey were written sometime in the 8th century BC. Homer’s contemporary Hesiod wrote his Theogony about the birth of the gods around the same time. The Greek playwrights Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides composed their tragedies during the 5th century BC. Virgil completed his Latin epic the Aeneid, patterned after Homer, about 19 BC, a generation before Ovid. The Library of Apollodorus was attributed to a writer in the 2nd century BC, but scholars believe the work was actually written more than a century later by an anonymous author; it may or may not have existed prior to the Metamorphoses. Hyginus wrote his Fabulae sometime in the 1st or 2nd centuries AD, after Ovid.

Discussion Questions:

Book 1

1. What does the narrator ask of the gods in his brief invocation?

“The Creation”

2. How was the Earth created (6-87), and by whom? How does this creation account differ from the one offered in Genesis?

3. Who created humans, and why? (73-87) How did they differ from animals? What does Ovid’s handling of this issue tell you about his stance towards the stories he tells?

“The Ages of Mankind”

4. How does the narrator describe the Four Ages (95ff)? What reason does he offer for the deterioration from the Golden to the Silver Age? What causes the deterioration into the Bronze and Iron Ages?

5. What seem to be Jove’s intentions with regard to the Iron Age human race? Does he plan to destroy them all? Why do Deucalion and Pyrrha alone survive? What redeeming qualities do they have? (319ff)

“The Flood” and “Deucalion and Pyrrha”

6. How does the narrator transition from his description of the Four Ages into the Flood Story? What comes between these two recountings, and what significance does this interlude hold for the material surrounding it?

7. Deucalion and Pyrrha pray to Thetis (370ff). What does she tell them to do? What, if anything, does Themis’ promise have to do with Jove’s promise to make a new and better race of beings? (249ff) How does the narrator sum up the principle of this new dispensation?

“Apollo and Daphne”

8. What logic underlies the transition (440ff) from the new creation to the story of Apollo and Daphne? What ties them together?

9. How, from 502ff, does Apollo at first court Daphne? What metaphor does the narrator employ to describe the pursuit that follows?

10. What becomes of Daphne around 546ff? How does the narrator tie the story of Daphne’s metamorphosis to his own time? How does her change differ from the one suffered by Lycaon? Does some principle underlie this change—why does Daphne change in the specific way she does, and not in some other way?

“Io”

11. What connects the Apollo/Daphne story with the Jove/Io Story? (cf. 573ff)

12. What metamorphosis does Io, the daughter of the river god Inachus, undergo? (586ff) How does she manage to turn into a human again?

“Phaethon”

13. What is the connecting link between the Jove/Io story and Phaethon? (753ff)

14. How is the final tale of Book One (about Phaethon) related to Ovid’s task as an epic poet?

Book 2

“Phaethon, continued”

15. The obvious moral of this tale is “don’t aspire beyond your powers or your lot.” But how does Ovid case this moral in doubt–what does his narration suggest about the way the Gods uphold their order?

“Callisto”

16. What links this story to the previous one, aside from the fact that Jove meets Callisto while surveying the damage from Phaethon’s disastrous ride?

“The Raven and the Crow”

17. How does the sad story of these two birds frustrate the theme of natural regeneration set forth at the outset of Book 2?

“Ocyrhoe” and “Mercury and Battus”

18. What common theme links these two stories? What connects them to the whole of Book 2?

“The Envy of Aglauros”

19. Why is it appropriate that Minerva should turn Aglauros into stone? Why not some other punishment?

20. Describe the behavior and the effects of Envy. Why is she so closely associated with poison?

“Jupiter and Europa”

21. How does this story complete the poet’s reflection in Book 2 on the relationship between humans and nature?

Book 3

“Cadmus”

22. What does the manner of Thebes’ founding suggest about the city’s future?

23. How does this tale relate to Ovid’s ironic handling of nature in Book 2?

“Diana and Actaeon”

24. When Actaeon turns into a stag and is pursued by hounds, what human characteristics does he miss most? Why?

25. How does this story handle the theme of female violence? Does such violence seem justified here? How does its significance go beyond the immediate tale? Why do you suppose the narrator comments at the end on others’ views of Diana’s conduct?

“Semele and the Birth of Bacchus” 23. How does Ovid’s Juno compare to Virgil’s Juno, and/or Homer’s Hera?

26. How does this story relate to the story of Phoebus in Book 2? What relationship between the human and the divine does it explore or assert?

“Tiresias”

27. In what way does this story advance the theme of “compensation for loss” as one significant feature of relations between gods and human beings?

“Narcissus and Echo”

28. How is this tale an exploration of the psychology of love? How does it compare to other tales in which Ovid’s narrator addresses this complex issue?

“Pentheus and Bacchus”

30. How does Pentheus interpret Bacchus and his rites? What power does Bacchus represent in this story?

31. Offer your view on why Pentheus’ mother, Agave, does not recognize her own son before she tears him to pieces. One possibility — how might the fact that she cannot recognize him be taken as a comment on Ovid’s theme of poetry’s power?

32. What attitude does the teller of the tale take towards the violent behavior of the Bacchantes? Is their violence a positive and appropriate thing here?

“The Daughters of Minyas”

33. Why is the girls’ storytelling inappropriate? How might this impropriety reflect back upon Ovid?

“Pyramus and Thisbe”

34. Ovid seems to have invented this story rather than to have borrowed it, and he offers it in a “deadpan” style. Again, how does the tale-telling make Ovid subject to the perils of his own fictional storytelling?

35. What is unusual about the metamorphosis here?

“The Sun in Love”

36. What is the connection between Hyperion and the daughters of Minyas? How do they both transgress?

37. How does Ovid’s tale show the limitations of metamorphosis as a strategy for escape from peril or compensation for harm done?

“Salmacis and Hermaphroditus” and “The Daughters of Minyas Transformed”

38. Salmacis aggressively pursues and merges with the son of Hermes and Aphrodite. The gods grant her wish–why, then, does the narrator allow Hermaphroditus to retain his male identity? How is Ovid treating the female character in this story?

39. What opposition does the narrator explore between “weaving” and the vines of Bacchus? Why is the punishment–transformation into bats–appropriate?

“Athamas and Ino”

40. Describe the back-and-forth process of punishment and compensation in this tale: what do children have to do with this process? Why are they at the center of it?

“The Transformation of Cadmus”

41. What does Cadmus hope to accomplish by his prayer to be turned into a snake? What comfort do he and his wife get from their transformation and what happens afterwards?

“Perseus and Andromeda”

42. In what sense might Perseus be said to redeem the “star-crossed lovers” theme of Book 4?

43. Perseus shows his mettle as a storyteller at the end of Book 4. Consider the beginning of the next book–how is Ovid underscoring the limitations of even this powerful kind of storytelling?

TIME PERMITTING:

The Rape of Proserpine (from Book 5)

1. Explain the “nature myth” involved in this tale – how is the story about the seasons or cycles of nature?

2. How does this story treat the issue of sexuality? Why does Venus, goddess of love, insist on pursuing the course she does, and why does Jove (the Roman Zeus) accept the outrage that has been committed against Proserpine (also called Persephone)?

3. Who or what undergoes metamorphosis in this story? Is metamorphosis invariably a positive thing in “The Rape of Proserpine”? Why or why not?

Arethusa (from Book 5)

1. How does Ovid construe the gods in this story?

2. How does Ovid treat sexuality in this story?

3. Does this story offer any comment or perspective on “The Rape of Proserpine”? What are your reasons for thinking as you do on this point?

Tereus, Procne, and Philomela (from Book 6)

1. How does Ovid handle the violent subject matter of his story? To what extent, for example, does he describe Tereus’ rape and mutilation of Philomela graphically? What would you say is Ovid’s attitude towards the cannibalistic revenge Procne takes on Tereus?

2. We have seen that weaving is often a metaphor for poetry and its power. How might that be the case in this story? Is there any other way to connect the tale with this theme of poetry’s power?

3. How does Ovid, in this tale and others, differ from authors who offer us some conventional “moral”? What do you suppose we are expected to take away from our reading of such Ovidian fables about metamorphosis?

Orpheus and Euridyce (from Book 10)

1. You have read Persephone’s story – does that cast any light on (or shadow over) Orpheus’ quest to recover Euridyce from the Underworld? Why or why not?

2. What reasons does Orpheus give Persephone for wanting to enter Hades? What constraint do the Underworld gods impose on Orpheus in his quest, and why can’t he return for a second time after his initial failure?

3. What powers does Orpheus have as a poet?

4. What do you believe to be the significance of the course of love that Ovid pursues after he is denied a second chance to rescue his Euridyce?

The Death of Orpheus (from Book 11)

1. Orpheus is torn to shreds by Bacchantes, female followers of Bacchus’ wild mystery cult. What power or order might the Bacchantes represent, in a wider social and political context? That is, how, with reference to the previous Orpheus tale, has Orpheus offended more than these women’s vanity?

2. What role do Apollo and Bacchus play in this tale? Why do they take Orpheus’ side? Why is it appropriate that the Bacchantes are turned into trees.

Elements of Geometry by Euclid

General Background

It’s had many editions over 2,000 years, almost as many as the Bible. Euclid was from Alexandria and spent most of his life in Egypt. Evidence that he studied in Platonic schools in Athens, influenced by Aristotle. He was the first to pull ideas together in a sequential way. Systematic.

Connection: from our last study, what you needed to have a successful society: a philosopher-king.

Connection: Lincoln decided to pause his law studies to work out Euclid’s theorems first. He knew that if he was to be persuasive, he would have to logically build his case.

This systematic way of studying has been applied to other schools of thought. Descarte used this as a way to explain philosophy: I think, therefore, I am. First principles. Deductive Bible Studies.

Postulates (Latin: to assume) / Axioms (Greek)

Something that stands alone, worthy or fit. #5 (Parallel postulate) was more controversial. Finally used in Proposition #29 where it was needed to move forward. There is another mathematics that does not rely on it, non-Euclidean geometry. Example is the globe: parallel longitudinal lines that meet at the poles.

Propositions / Theorems

(class did some samples here)

Pythagorean Theorem: first to lay all the building blocks that it took to build it.

Analysis

What is the value of this recorded systematic thinking?

  • Used by other disciplines as a way of recording systematic thinking?
  • Gives stability: principles that are proven are things you can rely on for building other things

In our culture we have elevated the process of proving things, making empirical science into a god. Applying it in areas that don’t apply, such as mathematically proving the existence of God. This is what takes us into the post-modern era, elevating our reason above all else.

Structure is at the root of all creation: all of creation is made by a God of order. Where is the math in art, music, literature, philosophy.

Music is listening to math principles ordered in a particular way.

If you don’t see the application then you don’t have a use for it. Plato was so excited about logic that it informed the way he ordered his Academy.

Model for how we learn things:

Cindy talked for quite and asked me to write: blah, blah, blah. :-) Is there a connection between rebellion against God and discarding order. Embracing the order helps us build in a direction to a great extent.

Learning is done in answer to a question, to solve a problem. Consider studying history backwards, starting with the question of the current concern, finding antecedents as you go back.

Birds by Aristophanes

ANCIENT GREECE  Greek 414 BCE
Great Books notes from meeting at the Huso Family home led by Jennifer Kinard 2012-11-04
Reading/performing two excerpts, loose translations by Penguin, interjected much more humor than was found in the text.  Nice job Jen!
What were the characters looking for at the beginning?  – A new place to live with freedom from the gods and men, taxes, and litigiousness in Athens.  Possibly hopeless about winning the Peloponnesian War.
EPOPS, the Hoopoe / Tereus:  He was a fiend that raped and mutilated his sister (by cutting out her tongue) in law and the gods turned him and the women into birds.
Philamela – nightingale or swallow
Procne – swallow or nightingale
Tereus – Hoopoe
Pisthetaerus and Euelpides (roughly translated as Trustyfriend and Goodhope)
Euelpides seemed to be the ‘straight man’ always saying, ‘this is another fine mess that you have gotten me into’, ‘translates the vision – puts meat on the bones of the quest’.
Pisthetaerus was the smooth talker, like the Music Man.
Aristotle said that the comic character and the tragic figure were distinctly different.  The tragic figure was exceptional and the comedic   Life goes from bad to good.
The audience was typically thoroughly drunk at this point (when the comic started) in the Dionysus Festival.
The  Greek Comedy typically had a section in the play where the author would speak directly to the audience, usually the chorus would speak these words. Much political criticism.
3 sections of an ancient Greek Comedy
Song sung at the beginning
Formal debate between the main characters and moderated by the chorus.
Playwright speaks – usually through the chorus
Did the main characters find that city that they were looking for?  They built a city, and Pisthetaerus became the de facto leader, and the society seemed to resemble Athenian society.  Is this allegory?
It was noted that over the course of the three works that we have studied (Odyssey, Oedipus and Birds), the power of the gods have greatly diminished.
Why might this be on our Great Books List?  It is the oldest comedy, and it survived in its entirety.  The elements of modern day comedy are here.  The use of a straight man, playing on the interpersonal relationship of two people, slapstick, bawdy, humor having to do with sex, lampooning the politics of the day, caricature, satire, wordplay (for example puns) and the comic hero is a regular guy with no special ability.  Aristophanes wrote his comedy as poetry with rhyme, rhythm and meter.
Notes by John Seefried, modify, edit or expand them as you see fit.

Oedipus Rex

Fate/Free Will/Predetermination

How different is Peter’s denial or Judas’ betrayal, both predicted publicly.

Tragic flaw:

  • pride -> anger -> murder
  • pride -> avoiding the prophecy

Catharsis

Telling that Oedipus pokes his eyes out, the one with no insight has eye sight. The one with no eye sight (Tyresius) has insight.

Repentance

Was he repentant? Different translations lead us to slightly different conclusions about this.

Of all ills, self-inflicted sorrow is the worst to bear.

Video suggested by Cindy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=-XYeuZaQg0M&nomobile=1

 

Odyssey by Homer

Homer’s Odyssey

Background
Blind bard (by tradition)
850 – 700 BC
Most popular book before Bible, more copies
Long narrative poem with heroes, Gods
Double adjective epithets – rosy figured dawn
Coupled with the Illiad – beginning of Trojan war
Troy was a real place, modern day Turkey
Epoch Cycle – non Homeric works about Trojan war
Great Alexandria library fire – 48 BC
Fall of Troy around the same time of David’s Kingdom
Time of Judges- contemporary of Samuel
God’s Creative order vs. Greek Worldview
Creator/Creature Distinction The Great Chain of Being
Creator/God no creator God
demons (heirarchy of created beings in a staircase format, 8 (?) levels)
Angels / Demons angels
Humans Humans
What does the Bible say about this God structure
Isaiah 14
Genesis 6
Nephilim
Also mentioned in Joshua (trans as giants)
Sons of God
Sometimes angels
could also refer to demons
Job 2
Sons of God came to present themselves to God
I Kings 18:21-24
Elijah on Mount Carmel
Baal seems to be some actual power
1 Corinthians 2
John 16:11
Ruler of this world was judged
Colossians 2:15
Jesus triumphed over the principalities and powers
Matthew 12: 25-29
Jesus accused of being Beelzebub
Jesus will con
John 12: 31-33
The Prince of this world will be cast out
1 Corinthians 10: 19-20
Paul says that the idols were actually gods/demons.
Daniel 10:13
Prince of Persia

Odysseus characteristics
Clever
Focused
Perseverance
Matured
Prideful with Cyclopes
Didn’t make that mistake again
Patient
When he gets home, he continues with the ruse longer than expected
Able to resist temptation longer than expected

How we treat people (theme)
Suppliants (beggars) – we should always treat them with kindness
Telemachus visits Menaleaus –
Men says not to send him away, they are treated very well – bathed, clothed, and fed
Zeus cares for the suppliants
Hospitality carried too far – giving hospitality to murderer
Zeus cares for suppliants
It was common for Gods to appear in the form of strangers, beggars

Penelope
Wish she were more assertive
Cries a lot
Is Homer trying to create the ideal Greek woman (wife)?
Seems wooden and uninteresting

Game: reviewing the facts of the book

Themes:
homecoming
coming of age: the people and the country/nation. Greeks value family and settled life, not just the heroism of victory in battle. Odysseus’ men don’t make this transition to a higher level and thus do not return. Even when he is promised eternal life and a sexual happiness, he choses a mortal life
temptation: losing sight of the goal (his men), Odysseus as a beggar was mis-treated, but he had self control. His son also grew throughout the story because he knew the greater purpose of his father getting his purpose back.
hospitality

The Two Towers

What is temptation?
temptation is not sin
what was it like to share your temptations?
looking back they seem silly/not that important
it takes something from your heart
James-temptations based on our own lust
still hard to share temptation
still equating with sin
if we could confess temptations and have accountability-then it could lose it’s power
what is temptation?
opportunity to gratify self
opportunity to do something that you know is wrong
match a desire (James)
in the book, for power
justification of temptation is where it leads to sin
the tempter comes in with lies
temptation from the book
Boromir
believed that he could master the ring-didn’t believe the truth about it
looking at history
Kings of Israel
What is Tolkien’s perspective on temptation
some characters are able to withstand the temptation
Gandalf, Aragorn, Elrond, Galadriel
these characters had deep self-awareness
knows their weaknesses
Faramir
not aspiring
accepting place in the greater scheme of life
proper response to temptation
flee, admit weakness
Evil-how does it effect each person
treating the ring as evil
Gollum-murder, mastered him, rules over him, transforms into a grotesque creature
Frodo-starting to feel the physical oppression of the ring, distrust of others/paranoia, hard to resist being exposed
Courage
once there is evil and temptation, then there is courage
Sam-has a lot of courage-saved the day-took great risks for the benefit of others
definition of courage (after discussing Sam) – decision, taking risks to benefit others, there is a cost, something that is more important than evil, doing the right thing, hope factors into courage, requires leadership
Frodo-what does he have to risk?
life, inheritance, the Shire,
Aragorn-what is he risking?
life, Kingship, revelation of being a King
what effect does courage have on others-contagious, leadership
what do others in your fellowship need from you?
everyone is tempted
everyone has fallen into justification
leadership sometimes comes from the side

Recap of discussions from the other groups:

Hobbits:
What would we do if a friend fell to temptation? pattern of Matthew
Lying is usually a part of covering up your fall from temptation
good can be corrupted into evil and/or passivity can allow good to become evil
More to the characters than black or white good/evil
Good characters are able to withstand temptation
Courage-Samwise had to have courage to go on alone after Frodo appears to be dead
Giving into the temptation might look good for awhile, but ultimately will lead to evil
Encouragement-bringing out courage in others

Ents:
pathway of temptation to evil to destruction
pathway of courage-might not be able to see the end result
discussion of, “Is taking care of oneself evil?” ex. the Ents
Is apathy/passivity evil? discussion of good/evil of characters
Evil characters are 100% evil
Good characters are 100% good, but are vulnerable to temptation and evil
Is it possible to be good and evil at the same time

Mrs. Dalloway

Bio

Victorian family, artistic family, brothers were educated but she hated that she wasn’t. Family was behind the times about 50 years. Close to her sister Vanessa, a painter. Virginia decided to be a writer. Self educated. Picked up a pencil early and was always writing. Mother died at age 13, mental illness followed soon after. Close to a half-sister Stella, much older, who died soon after. Father died a few years after that. Sexually abused by a half-brother. Parents died before any literary career. She was 3rd of 4 siblings of her parents, older parents than usual, both with previous marriages.

First published in 1900, an article in Times Literary Supplement. Spent her life trying to prove herself as a writer. As an adult, was involved in the Bloomsbury Group, a progressive group of thinkers and writers. They were all about what was good. Sexually liberal. Discussed philosophy. Big influence on her and her writing.

1912 married Leonard Wolf, part of the Bloomsbury Group. He was a writer, pro-feminist. First novel published 1915, spent several years in hospitals for mental illness. The book shows her compassion for people with mental illness.

She had an affair with Vita, a woman who later became a friend for the rest of her life. Vita was a big supporter. With Leonard, Virginia started their own press, so they published their own books. In 1941 committed suicide by drowning herself, filling her clothing with rocks and going into the river. Her most recent book, a biography of Roger Fry, wasn’t well received.

Mrs. Dalloway, written in 1925, set in 1922, post WWI, which figures a lot into the book. After the Edwardian period, a golden age.

The Novel and Mrs. Dalloway’s Place

Early novels, like Don Quixote, explored reality in the way things happened: plot. Early 1700s Robinson Curuso and others use literary realism, authors creating their own characters that interact in the real world, taking you inside their minds. Represent the lives of people who could really exist. The novel was becoming more accessible, certainly than poetry.

Novels read by servants and women. they can see their own issues expressed in literature. The role of the narrators develops. In Jane Eyre we have an omniscient narrator, who knows not only all of the characters, but also their inner lives and thoughts.

Henry James used point of view narration: limiting the narrative to a single character’s knowledge and perspective. This goes deeper into a single character.

1900s novelists go even further inward, such as Virginia Woolf and James Joyce, pushing the whole story through their perspective, their thoughts, their history.

Stream of consciousness is a new: James Joyce, Wolf, and William Faulkner are the pioneers of this technique. Virginia wants to go deep inside the characters and what makes them tick.

We also see early relativism in respect to truth, as well as existentialism.

Pat: Poetic language, rich vocabulary.

Ken on audio version: written one first hard to get into. Blast those many semi-colons! But the audio version better fits the stream-of-consciousness technique.

John: finding it hard to suspend disbelief when Clarissa “just knows” without any words, what Peter is thinking and feeling.

I Thessalonians 5, praying without ceasing, taking thoughts captive. Presenting thoughts to God to know what to make of one’s thoughts.